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CARIMAN Rep Speaks On Controversial Carnival Song

Controversial Carnival SongAntigua St. John's - CARIMAN and the Caribbean HIV/AIDS Alliance have added their outlooks to the already heated discussions surrounding the morality and responsibility of the latest Burning Flames Song “Kick in She Back Door”.

Svenn Grant, who holds the posts of Country Office Manager for the Caribbean HIV/Aids Alliance and Secretary for CARIMAN, says he is specifically concerned about issues regarding sexual violence which are clearly embedded in a lot of the musical culture in the Caribbean.



He said the particular celebration of the ‘Kick In She Back Door’ road march-winning song is not such a surprising trend.

“A lot of people are almost throwing their hands in the air saying that the song doesn't mean anything specifically. The upside in society lately is the appearance of awareness and dialogue on the matter of HIV/AIDS and sex in Antigua & Barbuda,” Grant said.

“But these talks appear to shy away from the connection between sex and gender and are leaning more towards the notion that anything can happen as long as it is between the opposite sexes.

“Not all women are interested in any relations whatsoever with a man and not because it’s carnival it means it’s okay for a man to jam up on any woman he sees,” he said.

Speaking specifically to the song, Grant noted that he was not at all pushing for any kind of legislative censorship for people's creativity.

“They can create what they want – however, there is a thin line between responsibility and creativity, and they need to know that certain songs will send messages that can be potentially damaging,” he said, adding that even with censorship the underlying message of a song might not be erased.

Further, Grant stated that the assumption that a mature population should exert some power and dictate what is broadcast across publicly accessed radio frequencies is laudable, but asked, “What happens when they are in denial or choose not to make it an issue?”

He said as far as he was concerned the matter is less about control but rather a position of maturity where people should engage in conversations to shape the kind of society that they want to live in.

“I wonder if the actual rape is a bigger issue than a song sending the message of rape. I believe that in the spirit of carnival a lot of people did not really stop and think about the culture and the fact that maybe we prefer to hear the beat of the song as opposed to the lyrics.

“We are just leaving space for more mishaps to happen instead of taking control over the potential for more mishaps to happen,” Grant said.

He questioned whether maybe he, like Women Against Rape (WAR), was putting too much emphasis on one song since there are several songs on the airwaves that send messages that go ignored.



“This is something that is driving the crime statistics consistently over the years. It does create some distressing ideas, images and concepts in the minds of both men and women ... And my concern is: where is the dialogue?

“We know that there are men out there that are not interested in popularizing a song like this and we know that the attention against it will make it more popular,” he said.

At the end of it all, Grant noted that what the organizations he represents are asking people to consider is that society may need to hold itself accountable for the kinds of things it considers entertaining.

“CARIMAN would like men and women to engage in conversation about the many things that influence us. And we shouldn't ignore any aspect of what is taking place,” he said.

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RE: CARIMAN Rep Speaks On Controversial Carnival Song

#17 sagga boy » 2012-11-05 21:57

Seriously people,its just a song, you do have the option to turn it off if you don't like it,
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#16 lamanex » 2012-08-17 19:21

Imorallity is not legal in Antigua but I see it everywhere. Prostitution is not legal but it is all over. I go there for vacation annually and am aware of the ** on the sreets and at the the strip clubs.If it is not legal and visitors are aware why isn't your government and law enforcer? Maybe they are clients also.
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#15 lamanex » 2012-08-17 19:05

I was there forcarnival and i like that song. Its about access to her home, it tells about the windows being closed etc, therefore kick in she back door to gain access. A few years ago there was a song about "she don't like it on the left side, she don't like it on the right side, all the woman need was back shot. There were no protest, and that was more sexual.
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#14 auddie » 2012-08-14 05:22

1 Thessolonians 5:22 " Avoid every knd of evil.

A general conclusion, that we waiting for the coming of Christ, do give ourselves to pureness in mind, will, and body, through the grace and strength of the Spirit of God.

A WORD TO THE WISE IF SUFFICIENT.

wE OFTEN BRING DOWN CURSES ON OUR SELVES THE WORLD TODAY CLEARLY SHOWS THAT SO MANY OF US ARE LOST, EVEN COMMON DECENCY IS TOO MUCH. GOD HELP US

(h) Whatever has but the very show of evil, abstain from it
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@New Yorker

#13 It Is Me » 2012-08-13 20:50

@New Yorker ... Bob Marley might have glofiried marijuana but he never glorified "slackness".

Do you think Mario Cuomo could take up tax payers dollars and pay artists to go on stage and act rude and talk about "bottoms", "bumpers" and "chi chi men" like the CDC do? Do you think he can have a government run parade with people and kids jammin to "kick in she back door"?

The Labour Day parade is run by a West Indian Association ... not the not the US government ... they used to get NY city grants but I am not sure if they still get ... but that is not government run like our Carnival is!!!

I don't mind adults going to Lions and "getting on bad" ... I used to ... I don't mind adults going to Millers and listening to Burning Flames play "kick in she back door" live ... I have a problem with dj's playing it on the radio before 12 midnight and jam bands and dj's playing it all over town during our National Parade infront of everyones children like it is not a contraversal song!!!
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Are you people serious

#12 sitco » 2012-08-12 19:02

It is just entertainment, poverty is what contribute to high crime rate. Japanese kids play the most violent video games in the world and their murder rate is almost zero. Jamaica on the other hand, where kids cannot afford to buy violent video games, the crime rate is one of the highest in the world.
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#11 Disturbed » 2012-08-12 17:21

If someone were singing a song calling for attacks on black people, all the high-ranking officials will do whatever they can to put an end to it. Most of the public would support them too. So why do we think it's ok to allow a song that promotes violence against women be open to the public?
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@ auddie

#10 New Yorker » 2012-08-12 12:19

Rio, New Orleans and Trinidad take exception to your statement.
The most profitable part of the Rio Carnival is the multi-million dollar sex industry that it engenders.
Not that that is going to prevent anyone from going there_ FIFA world cup, Olympics.
Hey, rich American businessmen love to go where they can find cheap ( and downright illegal) sexual activities. So in that case add Thailand,Indonesia, Bridgetown (in this case English men looking for transvestites) and Penn State (State Penn) University to the list.
You are giving Antigua far too much credit our economy would be much greater shape if you were right.
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#9 auddie » 2012-08-12 10:16

Antigua is the place to be if you are into lewdness and all kinds of deviant sexual behaviors, so bring on the perverts and degenerates as long as they have money to invest in it is all good. We have lost our way peole, we are already cursed dont you see it?
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no is it not me

#8 New Yorker » 2012-08-12 09:59

Rape is illegal and hence ban the song that glorifies rape. By the same token you quoted Bob Marley he gloried the smoking of marijuana in his songs. Regardless of how i feel about marijuana it is illegal here; so please enough of Bob Marley turning in his grave.
And by the way the same crap played here is played in the N.Y. labour day carnival. So condemn the US government as well.
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Bunch of fools

#7 It Is Me » 2012-08-11 22:43

Antigua is full of a bunch of fools who want to follow a few "so-called artists" to Satans camp ... how can a song called "kick in she back door" win roadmarch?

Our Government and CDC have to get real. Carnival is getting so slack nowadays we might as well have a kiddies Carnival on one day and Adult Carnival on another day.

The artist have all right to write and record any kind of foolishness they like. That does not mean radio stations and floats have the right to broadcast it over their airwaves and loudspeakers. The Government & CDC can control that.

But the problem isn't that song alone ... CP and Tizzy are always singing about rudeness and getting on bad as well ... like that's the only thing to sign about to get people jamming. And they are promoted by Digicel, Lime, our Government and all kinds of people who would of been protested on in North America for promoting "slackness".

As long as we have these wacked unconscious dj's and jam bands playing those songs the "so-called artists" will keep making them and that is what we will get for music ... Bob Marley is turning in his grave!!!
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@ Avid reader

#6 New Yorker » 2012-08-11 22:32

The last time I check the "singers" world over who make the most money are the ones who promote exactly what you are condemning. This is not unique to Antiguan or Caribbean culture. It is what your Madonna, Beyonce, Rihanna, JZ, R Kelly,Eminem, Bobby B and all the others you all worship sing about.
It is in the movies you all glorify. How many filthy North American movies you have called to be banned? Who are the "stars" your children are idolizing. What is shown in your Disney North American Cartoons that 4 year old Antiguans are watching.
Have you called for the banning of Family Guy? More Antiguans watch it than have heard this song.
Grow some b.... and go after the big players in this whole filthy industry.
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#5 SQUALL Edwards » 2012-08-11 11:57

What culture does it represent?
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Tired Of Cariman And W.A.R

#4 Cassanova » 2012-08-11 11:50

Speaking specifically to the song, Grant noted that he was not at all pushing for any kind of legislative censorship for people's creativity.
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#3 Avid Reader » 2012-08-11 10:42

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"to be edcuated some more and stop living within in a box, the rest of the world does not care about obscene and trivial songs like that..."

Are you kidding about that, then you have never heard of Buju Banton, most recently Beenie Man, what artists sing about matters especially if they want to make a living outside of Antigua and the Caribbean. This is not acceptable, this nonsense is inbread in our culture and we think it is funny.

I saw a picture yesterday of some baby not more than 4 years, wining up on some woman with a man standing up behind him. Everybody just stood by in a circle and watched. That is Antigua, repugnant.
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@ Get Real

#2 OH MY » 2012-08-11 09:44

Are you that stupid to think that the song represents Antiguan culture. There is nothing creative about it at all but just lewd lyrics… If the represents your ANU culture then I feel so sorry for the people of this country.. There are reasons why things are so wrong in ANU and your statement just says it all…. Maybe you need to be edcuated some more and stop living within in a box, the rest of the world does not care about obscene and trivial songs like that...
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#1 Get Real » 2012-08-11 05:49

Get over it, the song represents the culture, and the creativity of Antiguans. Hopefully, it will be distributed worldwide to inform potential tourists and investors about Antiguan culture is all about
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