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A Sign of the TimesThis may be a good time to sound a note of caution to those observers who make the fundamental error of attempting to apply logic, rationality and a sense of good order to the messy, disorderly world of politics.

A particular word of warning is directed toward persons who persist in making judgments based on personal likes, silly dislikes, and downright animosities. Reasoning along such lines can be extremely deceptive, as well as highly seductive.

Bloggers and commentators on various news portals and blog-spots are prone to build very convincing arguments in support of their preferred perspective on an issue. It is as though, having decided beforehand what their desired outcome must be, the debater then ignores all other possible factors, carefully selecting only those features that appear to advance the commentator’s own interests in the matter.



Another popular exercise – engagingly innocent but still deceptive – is to build what appears to be a strong and logical argument … but to start from a flawed premise, usually some personal prejudice or animosity arising from a partisan or self-interested impulse. The results of such dialectic can be startling, insofar as they may vary quite markedly from real-world phenomena as demonstrated by experience. Yet, despite the availability of evidence to the contrary, true believers will cling stubbornly to their preferred interpretation of the facts. This goes to show that while the facts may indeed be “the facts”, people still insist on having their own opinion of the facts.

The surprise defeat of the Barbuda Peoples Movement faction in Friday’s mid-term Council Elections carries implications that should strike fear into the heart of the ruling party. Some evidence of that has already surfaced, if one reads between the lines of remarks made by Winston Henry, newly-elected Public Relations Officer for the United Progressive Party. Henry regretted what he saw as a defeat at the polls induced by the application of considerable quantities of cash.

Sounding subdued and a bit uncertain, the UPP PRO nevertheless managed to clearly suggest that the Antigua & Barbuda Labour Party had purchased their victory, and relayed reports of cash and envelopes being seen passing from hand to hand. What lends significance to Winston Henry’s comments is their timing. Coming as they did long after the horse had already bolted the allegations lost their sting, sending a message more of chagrined sour grapes than of genuine moral indignation.

Totally absent from the PRO’s discourse was any spark of fire, any show of righteous anger. Quite apart from the truth that such potentially explosive information should have been released right into the teeth of the campaign, possibly exposing and confusing the enemy, the episode showed that the UPP had clearly been caught flat-footed and unprepared for an adverse outcome. Later comments by MP Trevor Walker did nothing to change that impression.

On Friday the long ruling BPM suffered a shattering defeat, losing its top leaders in a virtual decapitation of the council leadership. The ABLP practically swept the polls, the voters discarding big BPM names like council chair Kelvin Punter and finance chair Fabian Jones. Only one BPM candidate, newcomer Wade Burton, made it through.

The result, particularly the defeat of Kelvin Punter, was spectacular because of the pivotal role Punter had played in the raid on the Beach House property. That comic opera affair saw Barbudans, claiming to have been sanctioned by the council chair, descend on the disputed property and over a period of days strip it of practically all furnishings, fittings and appurtenances. Voters, many of whom may have benefitted from Punter’s open-handed way of doing things, seem to have decided that all things considered a change of council management was nevertheless in order.

The defeat was devastating for the ruling UPP/BPM coalition. Trevor Walker, though not personally affected (at least not immediately) by the change, now must function in tandem with an ABLP-controlled council, possibly chaired by arch-rival Arthur Nibbs – whose prestige has been much enhanced by his elevation to acting Senate Leader of the Opposition. Now, with a resounding victory under his belt and secure in the fully-demonstrated support of the national party leadership, Nibbs stands a reasonable chance of unseating Walker in March 2014 … no matter what travel arrangements are made for Barbudan students studying in Cuba.

One salient feature of the election campaign was the way the ABLP national leadership hit the ground in Barbuda and came out swinging hard for their team. It was a win-at-all-costs campaign for the ABLP, which had unofficially touted the election as a virtual preview of the fast-approaching 2014 general elections. That may or may not prove to be true in the end, but the ABLP has certainly amply demonstrated that it can win, and win handsomely. UPP leaders should consider themselves warned.

Of course, UPP leaders should have considered themselves rebuked after the 2009 squeak-through, but manifestly failed to get the message. Maybe they will this time: the next several months will tell the tale, once the clueless UPP can recover from the shock to the system the party received on Friday last. Party PRO Winston Henry is not to be faulted for his low-keyed performance: even the best PRO is ultimately no better than the material at hand, and Henry clearly had nothing to work with … the surprise had been complete.



Perhaps the UPP were bamboozled by the BPM crowds, lulled into a complacent belief that all the support provided, the roads, the fisheries complex, the airport, the sorely-needed dock now under construction … would logically and rationally add up to a vote of confidence by a suitably grateful public. These expectations are now shown to have been at best naïve, at worst delusional.

Once again the dark, un-measurable undercurrents of Barbuda politics have worked their will on the expectations of the rationalists. Once again the ABLP has proven that it can win convincingly without pulling a crowd. Once again the ABLP has shown that Asot Michael can make things happen – never mind how people feel about him.

And once again Gaston Browne has demonstrated that he is the most astute politician on the ground in Antigua & Barbuda today.

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skyewill - your forgot the tumor

#58 tenman » 2013-04-01 12:55

skyewill, you forget the other symptom: Something they call growth which when examined turns out to be a cancerous tumor. Strange thing is the singers laud this as something good. Perhaps because they see it as indicating that their pain will soon be over since death is on its way. I gather in their minds the CIP (they designed) is a version of radiation treatment.

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#57 skyewill » 2013-04-01 12:32

Sly really means well, he just forgot How the HMB deal is working out. Any person who can take a 20 million debt and turn it into what I believe will be 100 million US should be flogged. WPp/C The Wadadli Power Can't. what kind of sence cant it make to borrow so much money for anything and don't want to know why it does not work? I bought a half gallon of coconut water for $10 and did not like how it tasted and drove 15 miles to take it back and get my money, a 47 million dollars? Tenman, I say release the Krackin pan dem 1 video at a time.
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SlyThatGuy - ostrich syndrome

#56 tenman » 2013-04-01 11:09

SlyThatGuy, clearly you seem to be suffering from ostrich syndrome. You say there is no factual claim for corruption but when queried if you wish to see the report, you then show your prefer not to see it. You then continue with the lie that the problem is only the "recession". I had questions about BS leadership even before he became PM. At the time it was my hope that MP Lovell would beat him at the convention because I could not help but agree with Lovell, that BS was a tissue paper leader. To this day he still continues to not offer proactive leadership. He has never been able to properly manage persons even within his own party with a dissenting view. The major promised fixes was of waste and corruption. The record even before 2009 shows that they managed to make the situation worse by increasing government spending to levels never seen before (eg. highest wage bill ever while arguing before 2004 it was excessively high and spending on overseas trips). They also engaged in exercises like the fencing scandal, side walk projects, voluntary severance program. The PM admitted to serious mistakes with the VSP. Sly.. corruption and incompetence have costs

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Take this UPP PILL for your economic health recovery pt3

#55 skyewill » 2013-04-01 11:02

severe lower back pain, loss of bladder or bowel control;
• pain, swelling, warmth, or redness in one or both legs;
• red, purple, or scaly skin rash, hair loss, muscle pain, mouth sores;
• joint pain or swelling, swollen glands, muscle aches, unusual thoughts or behavior; or
• patchy skin color, red spots, or a **erfly-shaped skin rash over your cheeks and nose (worsens in sunlight).
Other common side effects may include:
• headache;
• stuffy nose, sinus pain;
• mild stomach pain; or
• pain, redness, itching, swelling, or bleeding where you injected the medication.
This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects.
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Take this UPP PILL for your economic health recovery pt2

#54 skyewill » 2013-04-01 11:01

flu symptoms);
• shortness of breath with swelling of your ankles or feet;
• confusion, neck stiffness, seizure (convulsions);
• pain or burning when you urinate;
• sudden numbness or weakness, sudden severe headache, problems with vision or balance;
• chest pain, sudden or ongoing cough, wheezing, rapid breathing, coughing up mucus or blood;
• tingly feeling, weakness or **ly feeling in your fingers or toes;
• problems with balance or eye movement, trouble speaking or swallowing;
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Take this UPP PILL for your economic health recovery pt1

#53 skyewill » 2013-04-01 11:00

Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction while taking The UPP PILL. Patients may experience symthoms of:
hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.
Stop using the UPP PILL and call your doctor right away if you have any of these symptoms of lymphoma:
• fever, night sweats, weight loss, tiredness;
• feeling full after eating only a small amount;
• pain in your upper stomach that may spread to your shoulder;
• easy bruising or bleeding, pale skin, feeling light-headed, rapid heart rate; or
• liver problems--nausea, itching, loss of appetite, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes ).
Stop using the UPP PILL and call your doctor at once if you have any of these other serious side effects:
• signs of infection (fever, chills, sore throat, vomiting, diarrhea,
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@ vendetta

#52 SlyThatGuy » 2013-04-01 09:58

Vendetta, The chief reason the American people re-elected President Obama to serve a second term is that they were keenly aware he inherited a tough situation from President Bush and wanted to give him enough time to get the job done. To put it bluntly,the people of Antigua & Barbuba - especially ALP supporters - don't even take into consideration the tough situation that the UPP and Prime Minister Spencer inherited from the ALP and former Prime Minister Lester Bird to make them want to give him a fair chance to get the work done. Vendetta, I hate to say this...but the reason you and others are finding all these faults with the Prime minister is because you don't like him. And the reason you don't like him is because we're in a very bad economy and you're greatly affected. That's the reason for all these personal attacks about how tax payers money was wasted on projects to enrich ministers. Such nonsense!
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Frenchy at age 22

#51 skyewill » 2013-04-01 00:01

My first real Job in the AF and the reason I was drafted to teach without a college degree is because I was promoted to Chief Comptroller Administration, HAFB Fl after being promoted ahead of contempories. I managed, Budget, Cost and Management Analysis, Accounting and Finance and Data Automation Branches and the comptroller Audit program team leader. What can they tell me (not bragging) exposing those frauds with authority. And don't get me wrong there are tons of Antiguan like me and you out there! I know 1 who works for a congressperson right now!
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Frenchy the Chicken farm they waiting on

#50 skyewill » 2013-03-31 23:58

I will buy you a chicken dinner if that BS ever comes to life. Underwriting is tuff work so the last thing we want to do is waste time. So when we initially look at a project we look for the obvious warning signs.
1. They ask for too much, unreasonable requests. - All local businesses close down/1000 acres and a complete monopoly/ 1million for local farmers to become slaves. When their business is worth millions every year.
2. The memo of understanding- ridiculous
3. The older Zackey already warned us
HERE IS WHY: The investor is playing games and hope to get all they are asking for. And the excuse out of the ridiculous deal is the fact that we signed the Memo agreeing to the terms and WE RENIGED
I wonder if they have the video of who took the bribe cause they got set up (my opinion)
Don't be surprised if people quit out of frustration and the blame game.
BUT THE DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD is Lovell putting something that is not even delivered into a budget. it don't get any dumber.
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John FrenchII Again

#49 skyewill » 2013-03-31 23:19

Cockles warmed, I would have done it for free. How many years you hear me saying this? But if a man does something for free you don't have any money to pass under the table. When Stanford found out I was from Antigua he freaked and just like the professor sort to control the Brain. Imagine getting Michael Jordan to play on your team for free out of love for the game? I remembered a New York teacher trainer volunteering to take a sabbatical to come home and give expert to the education depart and not up to now they even look at the lady. HERE IS WHY: They are afraid you will expose the fact that they are unarmed drones, shooting blanks. Look good no ammo, gun empty, Tek Error Caught and Top Flop, Why don't we have a comprehensive crime plan. HERE IS WHY: They don't know how to do one. A bunch of coggers. Too glad de congo man a come!
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John FrenchII

#48 skyewill » 2013-03-31 22:36

I along with Garth and Rachel Reeds, Miami Mayor Alex Pinellas, Dotty Stewart, Babcock the millionaire furniture giant and a few more are parents of the Miami Empowerment/Enterpri se zone/ Miami Enterprise Trust. I lead the underwriting team for the concrete work for the AMERICAN AIRLINES ARENA Home of the world’s greatest basketball team. A me dutty foot underwrote and created economic development process for minority businesses for South Florida Regional Planning. A dutty foot, black face, fu you picky head picknee George Skye Williams a party da a Gloria Estephan with Obama ina 2008. I went to China for LHP group Miami to locate a factory in the mountains next to a prison camp, mapped it arrange the financing and the shipping to Miami. Fully operational TODAY and they want to tell my about a rusty A$$ power can’t? Be for real! Chuptz and Chuptz again..I and I nar go bow!
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@ vendetta

#47 skyewill » 2013-03-31 20:13

No talent, no management skills, arrogant, selfish, greedy, disrespectful, no class, I have donated several time NOT EVEN A THANK YOU LETTER and If I tell you they sitting on the chairs and tables Skyewill not only bring/ship but set up..Not even a thank you. I get a birthday card and a Christmas card from the White House every year! Somebody told me the donation for the school lunch program in a closet collecting dust. They care about no one. They will tell you they bought investors and will give you a list. Movie theater, Town house furniture, Burger King, etc. $280 ec per week $107 USD per week jobs. While we go back to slavery. They pay police recruits $300 EC per week. 1 pair of shorts cost $115, some $10 dollar shorts. Can of Sardine is $5. And they are eating Caviar, five star hotels and first class all the way. Shopping on your per diem at Macy’s. come back thru the VIP, Tax free.
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@ Skyewill & Tenman - Falling For The "Sleeper's" Okie Dokie!

#46 John French II » 2013-03-31 20:00

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! Sorry, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore! Been watching today's games for 'The Final Four" so apologies for being in that Location - Time & Space
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In basketball, an okie-dokie is when the player (typically a point guard) swings the ball behind his back like he's going to do a no-look behind-the-back pass. Instead, he swings it back around to where he started from and, usually juking the defender, he is able to either make a break towards the basket or make a better pass.
guy 1: wow fisher didn't even fall for rondo's okie dokie
guy 2: yeah, the celtics are beatches - Urban Dictionary
Skye, this should warm the cockles of your heart. Cayman Islands special economic zone embarks on international outreach www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Cayman-Islands-special-economic-zone-embarks-on-international-outreach-15183.html
Tenman This is provided since no one pays attention to the IMF & ABIB.
www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Bermuda-outlook-revised-to-negative-on-higher-economic%2C-fiscal%2C-and-banking-sector-risks-15184.html
Respect!
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@ skyewill

#45 my way of helping » 2013-03-31 19:36

Thank you and i humbly appreciate you feeling my heart.
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@ tenman

#44 my way of helping » 2013-03-31 19:30

What does sophistication and dignity has to do with me saying, we will sow what we reap, even if we all suffer. Isn't it our doing?

I know we think different and has training in different areas, but i usually do not get your logic. Take that comment of mine to an intelligent literature professor and only you will be shocked, it has nothing to do with dignity and sophistication. It has to do with a fact, shouldn't we accept that we may have to reap what we sow?

Tenman, i give up on understand your logic, love, empathy, sophisfication and dignity
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skyewill

#43 tenman » 2013-03-31 18:41

skyewill, I hear you. It was that comment that caused me to try to contact him

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@Tenman

#42 Avid Reader » 2013-03-31 18:28

The first two paragraphs reads like a threat to people, that I have a problem with. I remember the 70's when non police officers were up and down high street with guns, people had to run for cover. The
ALP vs the PLM, the way his article starts out is what has gone on in Antigua for a long time, time to arrest it. If the writer wanted to comment and add something constructive that is his prerogrative, the same as everyone else, but don't issue threats as he starts.
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SlyThatGuy -facts

#41 tenman » 2013-03-31 18:16

SlyThatGuy, the report into the fencing scandal is available to the public. Caribarena carried an article which included a copy of the said report. It has some of the evidence you seek: One fact it pointed out was that the projects not going to tender broke the law. It also pointed out that the projects which did not have DCA approval also broke the law. It also pointed out that the capital expenditure not being approved by parliament also broke the law. If you will like the url for the report let me know and I will get it for you.

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@ tenman and My way of helping

#40 skyewill » 2013-03-31 18:15

@ tenman our brother My way of helping is hurt and it is human to feel this way. It is his father. I hope you understand.
@ Mr. Francis, I watch you actually mature right here from where I sit and we have interacted away from here. Fear, hate and anger cause diversions to what makes us successful. You can't be forgiven if you can't forgive. it is what it is. you know what is in your own heart. Show the world and be the success you are destined to be. Because I care about you all I can say to you cannot control life and somethings you can't change. Something in me tells me you will be one of our biggest successes. Let it go!
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Lord Have Mercy - you are on a different mission

#39 tenman » 2013-03-31 17:41

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He was distributing what I called filthy lucre that totally corrupted persons. Trevor Walker
Lord Have Mercy, you did say seem. I abhor the practice and would never support such. We recently had a conversation via comments where I also made this clear. Agreed, we need to also be critical of all parties to the "bribe". My comment again was in reference to Walker's statement( that again you are missing). If persons were doing what Walker suggested would you not agree this was not "high" level bribery? Walker stated Asot was there directly doing the deed.

Lord have mercy if a known thief/cheat, still plying his trade, told you someone robbed/cheated him would you be concerned?



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@ tenman

#38 SlyThatGuy » 2013-03-31 17:37

Tenman, I'm pretty sure that corruption has consequences. Because it hinders development,which can have a very harmful effect on an economy,which can have a serious impact on the individual community. Corruption,which creates a problem in accountability and transparency to the public,can cause the public to undermine the legitimacy of a government and weaken its structure. One of the dimension of corruption is the worsening of poverty. Poverty can cause social unrest that then cause the downfall of a government. Yes, I would most certainly accept the finding of the committee if it's it's based on evidence. Look,Tenman,it's quite possible that a lot of the money to be used on the sporting fences was lost through corruption,but you can't accuse them without the evidence. So no matter what view or judgement you or I formed about the Bencorp building and the $47 million USD Power Plant,without evidence or knowledge,it's just a belief and it means nothing.
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slythatguy doesn't incompetence have a cost

#37 vendetta » 2013-03-31 17:35

8 million for the medical transcription. 13 million for a 4 day concert the public was promised an audit since 2008. if Obama went in office an decided to blame Bush for the economy i doubt he would have gotten a second term. i cant believe after 9 years, and starting budgets nearing a billion EC, persons can still blame ALP for the state of this country. Do we have to give UPP 28 years for persons to realize that the party lacks competent leadership and talent. how come when we experience the 12% artificial growth with all the spending for the world cup no mention of ALP. Due to the rush to finish projects internal controls were relaxed what ensued was widespread corruption on roads and sidewalks. spent over 800 million EC on roads and then went to the IMF for 120 million US. the global economic crisis had an impact on the country but you cant deny that the tax payers money was wasted on projects to enriched ministers. we never got value for money and don't talk about that 'power cant plant'
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Avid Reader - my nuff view

#36 tenman » 2013-03-31 17:15

Avid Reader you said:
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Antiguans are not children, we have opinions and are within our rights to voice them
You do realize this is the very point Colin is trying to make, especially when it comes to the bribery allegations? Anyway just like you have the right to air your opinion, so also does the writer (wrong or right). Isn't this an opinion piece? Did you not state free expression was a right? So you telling the man either write according to whats acceptable to you or don't write at all because you don't like his observation? Colin, I for one thank you for causing a stir, on whats normally a dull day for commenting on Caribarena

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@ Tenman: There you go again lowering your standards

#35 Lord Have Mercy » 2013-03-31 17:08

Everybody knows that the bribery ttaking place in Antigua and Barbuda is definitely widespread, but it is happening on a much higher level than you want to acknowledge. ** Man is an expert at what he does, he would never fall for anything like what caught that novice Lindsay Grant. ** Man never does his own dirty work. In Barbuda for example, ** Man used trusted, local Barbudans supporters to deliver the envelopes with the Filthy Lucre. That way even the delivery person has plausable deniability: if the chit hit the fan the delivery person can say he had no idea what was in the envelope or he thought it was a confidential letter. Tenman I realize that you are not going so far as to say that bribery did not happen, but what has me baffled is that you seem to be saying that the bribery you believe is happening is excusable because both sides are doing it. You are aware that the upholder is just as bad as the thief. I was labouring under the impression that you moral standards and level of integrity would not permit you to endorse bribery of any amount. My bad.
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@ Mr. Sampson AARE YOU KIDDING?

#34 Avid Reader » 2013-03-31 16:17

Antiguans are not children, we have opinions and are within our rights to voice them, you want to write an article write a good one, why Caribarena posted this is beyond comprehension.

YOUR WRITING:

"This may be a good time to sound a note of caution to those observers who make the fundamental error of attempting to apply logic, rationality and a sense of good order to the messy, disorderly world of politics" ARE YOU KIDDING?
"Bloggers and commentators on various news portals and blog-spots are prone to build very convincing arguments in support of their preferred perspective on an issue. It is as though, having decided beforehand what their desired outcome must be, the debater then ignores all other possible factors, carefully selecting only those features that appear to advance the commentator’s own interests in the matter". SO DOES THIS ARTICLE.
Despicable to say the least, either you know how to craft an article or you should leave them alone.
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@ Tenman

#33 skyewill » 2013-03-31 15:56

There is not without Tenman HERE IS WHY: He alone can bang 10 man. You the best Da Da!
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MY WAY OF HELPING- judge by your words

#32 tenman » 2013-03-31 15:39

MY WAY OF HELPING you calling for dignity? I am sorry but I just can't miss this chance: Where was that dignity when you wrote:

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my way of helping » 2013-03-01 03:52 2 of the persons that dealt unfairly with my father, the country will get what it sowz. Innocent officers suffer, the public will feel the lead of the criminals. May be i am angry from hearing my father explain but i do not feel sorry for the public. Even if my family members suffer, i can't say nothing but, it is us who put us in this situation. Upp is a curse to this country, and the people who back them, i pray that if anyone must get hurt, it is who made the decision for all this to happen, the upp voters. The people who because they dislike you do not care for the truth. I am black but i can't stand being around blacks and the way we think. Read more: http://www.Caribarena.com/antigua/opinions/opinion-pieces/rawlston-pompey/103273-by-the-gun-criminals-rule.html#ixzz2P9ERIMQS
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@ Antiguan

#31 skyewill » 2013-03-31 15:38

Thank you, that is exactly correct. Attacking a person for their opinion shows lack of credibility. Instead of making a valid point, attacking the individual how pitiful and sad. I just got back from church where the Antiguan & Barbuda Association of South Florida had a bake sale and promotion drive for our country where we promote our country in our local communities. Every Antiguan woman from 9 to 99 got a white rose from Skyewill, showing love. Wanted love and understanding, needed peace and happiness in the world, people we should live together you know the rest....Asomdwee (means PEACE in Twi, the language of the Ashanti people)
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Lord Have Mercy

#30 tenman » 2013-03-31 14:51

Lord Have Mercy when its wide scale its easy for what happened in St. Kitts, with Lindsay Grant, to happen here:


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RE: A Sign of the Times

#29 app » 2013-03-31 14:45

Colin apparently your latest work is a masterpiece. You turn a slow day into a fire cracker. The good professor seems to think you are glorifying AM ways of doing things with the filthy lucre. The UPP never to be outdone by the ALP have their version of AM, none other than the deputy speaker of the hxxxx.
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Lord Have Mercy

#28 tenman » 2013-03-31 14:41

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“Surprisingly, one of the main issues was that MP Asot Michael came over to Barbuda for four or five days and in my view, changed the whole dynamics and context of local elections in Barbuda. He was distributing what I called filthy lucre that totally corrupted persons. So we were up against a lot. We just could not compete against the filthy lucre that was distributed and the results are what they are,” Walker said.

Lord Have Mercy,lets try and be honest. Reading that quote from Walker does this not seem wide scale? My comment dealt specifically with that inference by Walker. I stated:
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If Bribery was as wide scale as some allege, would that not make it easy to catch at least one perpetrator?
. I don't know how anyone can read my comment and get from it that I was saying with certainty that no bribery occurred. What I am clearly saying is that if it was wide scale it would have been easy for persons, if they wished to, to detect and prove it. ..
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Where is the class and sophistication?

#27 MY WAY OF HELPING » 2013-03-31 14:38

Why is this medium filled with animosity? Why is both party supporters acting this way? Both parties are so turning me off because of how their supporters communicate with people.

I am sick of hearing it, a party's etiquette, consideration, love and change comes from the supporters. If they supporters act this way, then i do not want to know their leaders.

I am now calling on all you all to act with dignity, class, sophistication and empathy. I told these party's, the people they have around them is not just the people who should be, keep your enemies closer too, love them and consider them.

At this time, both party, their supporters and bloggers, disappoint me. ALP/ABLP supporters will curse you out and call you names and UPP supporters will curse you out and call you names.
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SlyThatGuy - does corruption have costs?

#26 tenman » 2013-03-31 14:24

SlyThatGuy, does corruption have consequences? Will you accept the finding of the committee set up to access what was called the "fencing scandal" that there was corruption in that 54 million scheme? Will you accept that there was corruption involved in the 47 million USD, WPP scandal? Will you accept that corruption was involved in the millions spent on covering gutters in St. John's and then having to remove the covers? Would you accept that corruption reared its head in the decision to buy the bencorp building, the building MBS bought that MP Daniel publicly stated someone had earlier tried to bribe him to purchase? SlyThatGuy, Chanlah basically stated that the current problems have forced them to be prudent. Sly. our impudence is not part of the current problem?
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bribery is between you me and god

#25 Lord Have Mercy » 2013-03-31 13:25

I just want to add my 2 cents on what Tenman said about bribery. His statement gives the impression that bribery is like a daylight robbery at Heritage Quay. Tenman attempts to give the impression that if it actually happened somebody would have seen, when nothing could be further from the truth. That makes his statement a bit deceptive, as well as disengenuous. Let's do the arithmetic, Barbuda has about 1200 voters, A party needed to bribe less than half of the voters to ensure victory, because the voters at their base were secure. An envelope with 10 crisp EC $100 dollar notes to 400 corruptable voters was enough to seize the day. By any calculation, the illegal payments of EC $400,000 to give the party credibility and momentum is a small price to pay. More dispicable than the bribery itself is the way the people seem to find nothing wrong with this practice. Bribery is a horrendous crime, whether it is widespread or only one incident.
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RE: A Sign of the Times

#24 Anonymous » 2013-03-31 13:15

I was long of the view that Gaston is the most political strategic minded candidate in Antigua. I also liked Willa's **sment, how can those who put in the mess take us out ? Whereas, they could say that Lester help to create the mess, they cannot say that about Gaston. I am woman with a man crush, Gaston is the best.
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MIB

#23 tenman » 2013-03-31 12:50

MIB, his primary role are entertainment and the propaganda sale. In general his audience are UPP supporters. In the past, I listened to him, but I think it was Daniel letting the cat out the bag that did it for me. I always heard the rumors of money passing and noticed that the show tended to be one sided. However, Daniel publicly stating that payments were made and basically that the the DJ was for sale, was the icing on the cake. The man's job is to provide entertaining propaganda while he hides behind a fig leaf of being independent
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Professor 03:34

#22 Colin » 2013-03-31 12:43

The "moral indignation" I leave entirely to you - please pursue your political interests on your own -thank you!
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AN ANOLOGY FOR EVADERS MAS TROUPE

#21 Professor » 2013-03-31 12:15

Try on this ANOLOGY for size: There is a KNOWN PEDOPHILE paying poor, teenange, minors girls and boys for sex and sodomy. Because he is FILTHY RICH he manages to continue his EVIL PLEASURES unabated. It is an OUT IN THE OPEN SECRET that this KNOWN PEDOPHILE pays off the parents of his minor victims to drop or not file charges. Paying a a police officer to loose the file or paying a judge to dump a case is a day at the park. This KNOWN PEDOPHILE now wants to run for political office and he is telling the electorate that the fact that he has never been convicted of these crimes is POSITIVE PROOF that he is an innocent man. His paid supporters claim that he should have an opportunity to make his contribution, because he knows how to GET THINGS DONE QUESTIONS: 1. IS THIS PERSON FIT FOR PUBLIC OFFICE? 2. WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE JOURNALIST and THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE ELECTORATE IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES?
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@ MIB

#20 SlyThatGuy » 2013-03-31 11:58

I believe that you told that joke because you intentionally meant to deceive the people. You want to give them the wrong idea or impression about the UPP Government by suggesting that it's they who got the country in this financial quagmire. Well,That's false! The collapsed of the Global Market, Alan Sanford's ponzi scheme,and the closing of our gaming industry by the United States are all the main reasons we are in this. People are forgetting or they just simply don't want to accept that fact because they now feel insecure. And what happens when people feel insecure? They become desperate and irrational.
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sour grapes

#19 tenman » 2013-03-31 11:45

If Bribery was as wide scale as some allege, would that not make it easy to catch at least one perpetrator? What we are hearing makes it seem as if persons only knew of the "bribery" after the election. Could it be that they were also engaged in the accused behavior and so at the time thought its impact unimportant? As Colin reminded in a prior article, speakers for the BPM were predicting a victory days before the election. This talk of bribery seems more like sour grapes

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UPP/ALP - what's the difference?

#18 Liz » 2013-03-31 11:41

If an outsider who doesn't have a vote in either twin island state may voice her no doubt inadequate impression of Antiguan politics - the difference between ALP and UPP to an outsider looks to be that ALP is Old Corruption and UPP is New Corruption. ALP had 26 years to practise it, and appears slightly better at hiding it than UPP - but in that time, ALP and their friends and relations were caught so often enough with their trousers down that Antigua is a byword for Caribbean corruption in the outside world. Now, friends - the fact is, that in 2013, data exchange is so instant that corruption can only be hidden in totalitarian states. In democratic states like Antigua & Barbuda, the truth now ALWAYS comes out eventually. So, UPP/ALP, why bother trying to hide your undemocratic acts and dodgy deals like the power plant deal, the CIP fiasco, etc? You all gonna get found out these days, and bad news won't stay buried, so you may as well give up on the cloak and dagger stuff and be honest with the voters - is that too much to ask.
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@ Dax Rebel

#17 Professor » 2013-03-31 11:30

Do you know that XX said exactly the same thying that you are suggesting. XX is laughing at Antiguans and daring us to stop him if we can. Do you know what we do in response? We lap our tails between our legs and pretend we do not know that he is PEVERTING THE POLITICAL PROCESS. XX understands that PROVING his CRIMINAL CONDUCT requires the BENEFICIARY of the BRIBE to SELF-INCRIMINATE (Admit to participating in a CRIME). Plus he never gives out the ENVELOPES himself, so if anybody came forward there would be the additional hurdle of PROVING the person was acting on XX's directions. Remember, we live in a land where ANYTHING GOES, XX can BUY A JUDGE here and XX can BUY A CONVENTION there, XX can BUY OUT POOR BARBUDANS here and even a CASH-STRAPPED JOURNALIST there.
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@ Winston Henry

#16 Dr. Patterson Wales » 2013-03-31 11:05

Am I to believe that Barbudans were up for sale after the UPP did such good?

Seriously? Money passed and the UPP was so moral that no cash got passed back?

If the elections were purchased why not bring the evidence to Court and redo the elections?

The the UPP talks about how money was the deciding factor rather than accept that it was defeated due to a dying brand the more it is likely to win Antigua...lol
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A sign of the times

#15 Antiguan » 2013-03-31 11:04

I believe he evaded the substance of the accusation because its an accusation thats thrown about election after election (in many countries) and nothing more comes of these accusations.They never seem to be taken any further. After hearing it so many times it becomes background noise in any election. Its like the story the boy who cried wolf.
And on another topic what some persons are seeming to forget is that everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is why there is a show called 'your view'. Its similar to a thing called one man, one vote. Instead of criticizing the person personally for how they feel which is their right, criticize their argument! I don't understand: do you think you are going to attack the person into believing what you believe. Must a person agree with another person all the time or change their opinion because you said so. We need to grow up and agree to disagree with each other respectfully.
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@ Tenman ... ANTIGUA FOR SALE

#14 Professor » 2013-03-31 11:04

The truth is that Colin should be ashamed of himself for what amounts to his endorsement of X's criminal activity. Colin has obviously LOST HIS WAY, because I know that he grew learning that THE RIGHT WAY IS THE BEST WAY. One can only imagine what has caused what must be consideredn a compromise of JOURNALISTIC INTEGRETY. For example, we can fix the local crime problem by HUNTING DOWN AND KILLING ALL OF THE SUSPECTED CRIMINALS, but even though it is an EFFECTIVE SOLUTION that yields excellent results in fixing the crime problem, we would never ENDORSE it because it is MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE (WRONG). Likewise, what XX is doing is very EFFECTIVE, but it is WRONG, it is AGAINST THE LAW. XX will continue to pervert the political process as long as the people like you and Colin who know better refuse to stand up like men and say what he is doing is WRONG. EVIL PERSISTS WHEN GOOD MEN TURN PUNK ...
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RE: A Sign of the Times

#13 SlyThatGuy » 2013-03-31 10:41

I don't care how much you people at Caribarena are trying to downplay it now; this despicable behavior of vote buying cannot be tolerated. That's not only taking advantage of a people you know are struggling to find jobs and food but is threatening and destroying the guiding principles of a fair election as well . The only thing that the ABLP has shown that XX can do is illegally interfere with an election by offering voters cash(a vote buying bribe)to vote or not to vote. That,s so despicable!
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@ zzz best now z

#12 skyewill » 2013-03-31 10:29

"Fear is the mind killer". Don't worry; “I use my powers for good and not evil”. I wish I had music when I write those words from DC comic dated July – August, 1943, I would use the theme from Superman. But I am sure you can use your imagination. I was just leaving for church came back and saw you and the other mask man still escaped and on the run. I’ll take care of you when I get back. See you in a few hours...bye bye :P
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@ colin

#11 skyewill » 2013-03-31 10:18

You see what kind the professor is. Just last week he was telling people how to interprit what you were saying and When I agreed with you he said you were being sarcastic until you replied that his mind was worped. Before when you were saying what he wanted to hear you were great, now you get an "A" for Evasive Writing. This is exactly what the opening of this article is all about. Happy Easter, Family 8)
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HOW LONG LORD?

#10 OO7 » 2013-03-31 09:34

HOW MUCH TIME DOES UPP NEED TO FIX " THE PROBLEMS CAUSE BY THE ALP"? HOW LONG OH LORD. HOW MUCH TIME DOES UPP NEED TO TURN THE SHIP OF STATE AROUND? HOW LONG OH LORD.
"WHAT IS WRONG WILL BE MADE RIGHT" WAS THE POPULAR SOLGAN IN 2004, HOW LONG OH LORD MUST YOUR PEOPLE WAIT. A FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE UPP PROMISE THE SECOND TERM WOULD BE A TIME FOR ARRESTING THOSE WHO HAVE ROB THIS COUNTRY FOR 28 YRS... WE ARE STILL WAITING. HOW LONG OH LORD. DID THE PEOPLE GOT A CHANGE OR AN EXCHANGE, ONE EVIL FOR THE OTHER? HOW LONG OH LORD?
HOW LONG OH LORD? NOT LONG SAYS THE LORD.... I WILL GIVE THE PEOPLE A CHANCE IN 2014 TO CORRECT THE ERROR THEY MADE IN 2004. THANK YOU LORD
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@Professor

#9 Dax Rebel » 2013-03-31 09:06

Professor, if there are persons who know of bribes given/taken during the elections, why not report such to the police or other relevant authorities? This is just a deception, caused by serious embarra$$ment. Salaries were suddenly on time, road works and port works were in progress. What could have gone wrong? Absolutely nothing!

After the ballots were tallied, reality set in, and the spin doctors were at a loss to explain the devastating defeat suffered at the hands of an organized and energetic ABLP team. Hopefully this is just the beginning of the end of this arrogant, incompetent and corrupt regime which seem to turning this once beautiful twin Island State into a United Paupers Paradise (UPP).
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Colin thanks

#8 tenman » 2013-03-31 09:04

Professor, this I suspect was aimed right at you:
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Once again the ABLP has shown that Asot Michael can make things happen – never mind how people feel about him. And once again Gaston Browne has demonstrated that he is the most astute politician on the ground in Antigua & Barbuda today.
Professor, try and remember the GI Joe, quote "knowing is only half the battle". This is a war, you have a weapon, you either: use it; try to destroy it;or give it to your enemy (note attempting to destroy it may garner the same result)?

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RE: A Sign of the Times

#7 z » 2013-03-31 08:59

never fails here comes the 'Sarah Palin' of Caribarena the ultimate pot spoon skyewill the G B man crush. unvarying in his quest even on a Easter Sunday plying his trade as a disgusting suck up. :zzz :zzz
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Hmmm...

#6 JD » 2013-03-31 08:29

Interesting article, and very interesting comments so early (for a slow Easter Sunday) and so far - more still to come, I'm sure... Hmmm...(rubs chin knowingly in classic Mr Sampson pose...)...
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RE: A Sign of the Times

#5 MIB » 2013-03-31 07:54

The snakepit audience is skewed, he has lost credibility, but you would never know, like UPP he is under the false assumption of his widespread appeal. The only wrongs the host highlights are those of Daniel whom he has a personal $pat.
Harold is a horrible finance minister responsible for numerous costly errors but the host would never touch that. I remember one time he made a comment about Cort then ask Ms Charles to apologized for him. Remember when all things wrong with ALP was place at the feet of Lester. Notice Balwin gets a free pass. where are all the 'dokisments', the pipe line dry up all of a sudden.
I really think he should stick to the old time calypso thing. Most persons listen for only that reason including myself. The selective comments on politics exposes the host for what he really is, an opportunist.
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RE: A Sign of the Times

#4 MIB » 2013-03-31 07:48

I was listening to the Observer yesterday the host was playing clips that showed disunity in the ALP. He then proceeded to comment that only a certain category of persons supported the ALP. A disparaging remark he likes to utter. After doing that, here is the joke he had a poll asking 'In the present economic condition which party is best suited to advance the country.' The UPP, ALP, none of the above. Of course the ruling party won handsomely with 104 votes, 22 to ALP & 10 no confidence. My reason for mentioning the whole sad affair was the PRO of the UPP who took comfort in the painful exercise. Willa threw monkey wrench when she ask what is the definition of insanity. The host obviously mad ask her what she meant by that. She said to the 104 persons, how can the persons who put us in this mess be the ones to take us out? LOL. Oh Willa you too bad.
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RE: A Sign of the Times

#3 IHI » 2013-03-31 07:16

What exactly has asot made happen? Many others significantly contributed to ablp win in Barbuda .
The facts about asot's embar**ing behavior are well known; it is not just a feeling. People don't feel brutish behavior they see it and experience it. The ablp is better off without asot. Gaston will learn the hard way just as Lester did when he gets the knife in his back.
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Gaston Browne has demonstrated that he is the most astute politician on the ground in Antigua & Barbuda today.

#2 skyewill » 2013-03-31 05:51

Weeks before the election, I from this very portal saw the plan formulating so it was one of the comments I made. I said I liked a certain move I had observed. He was so excited he could hardly hold himself. His eyes lit up like a Christmas tree to know that someone else actually saw it. The idea was so brilliant that I gave him a high five. Mr. Sampson’s engagingly innocent but still deceptive concept. I would say that Colin is brilliant to be able to see this concept. The one thing I know, If your really want to find out something about someone it is best to actually engage that person rather than get what some else’s concept of that person is. So I got on an Airplane and went directly to Browne’s office. HERE IS WHY: I love to travel and I love to read. But seeing Africa and reading about Africa is really two different things. Reading about banku and actually tasting it is a totally different experience. Reading about Browne and actually talking to him is also different. Comparing what we had and what we have today. Browne in my opinion is the best choice. Sound good when you read it but after I tasted it, I did not like banku.
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THE ROLE OF FILTHY LUCRE IN THE STRUGGLE FOR CONTROL OF ANTIGUA'S PURSE STRINGS

#1 Professor » 2013-03-31 03:34

Colin you get an "A" for Evasive Writing.

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Henry regretted what he saw as a defeat at the polls induced by the application of considerable quantities of cash ... UPP PRO nevertheless managed to clearly suggest that the Antigua & Barbuda Labour Party had purchased their victory, and relayed reports of cash and envelopes being seen passing from hand to hand.
I have to wonder why you completely EVADED the substance of the ACCUSATION and sought refuge in the psuedo-scientific analysis of the inflections of his voice. Oh What a tangled web you weave ...

Where was your MORAL INDIGNATION, not a word adressing the peversion of the electoral process, which is a crime.

I can only imagine the journalistic integrety that gave rise to classics EVASIVE STATEMENTS like:
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Quite apart from the truth that such potentially explosive information ...
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